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Anatomy of an Internet Private Party Purchase...
Was this a ripoff??? You decide...
red=buyer
blue=seller
07/07/02 05:52PM
How much are you asking? Do you have the rugs/threshold plates/A pillar pieces,etc????
Thanx...
-G
07/0702 6:54PM
what do you need and how much are you willing to pay for the stuff......make a fair offer and we will start from there ...i have whole leather interior of car ..so what ever you need i have....thanks
Matt
07/07/02 07:36PM
I've got the tan interior. I'm torn between re-doing the entire thing gray/black or just portions of it. I think it'll be a lot cheaper, more custom, to get Mobo or Catskin for the seats. I'd like, I think, the door panels, headliner, threshold plates, rug, rear panels (where the rear speakers are)inside A pillars, headliner... I guess everything but the seats... This stuf is ALL in A+ condition? And where are you located???
Thanx...
-G
07/07/02 07:38PM
Also... I've got a power sun-roof in my '96 VR4... I don't imagine the headliner is from a similar car... right?
-G
07/11/02 12:20PM
have the interior ...so let me knowwhta you want to do...thanks
07/11/02 06:36PM
What parts/pieces do you have? I'm looking for a headliner and both door panels, primarily...
-G
07/11/02 10:16PM
How much do you want for the inner door panels... for starters... and what kind of shape are they in?
-G
7/12/92 6:57AM
i have booth head liner and door panels make me a offer on it have several people bidding on it so let me know asap...thanks
Matt
07/12/02 06:59AM
If I don't know what the current bids are... how can you expect me to bid on them?
-G
07/12/02 07:03AM
make me a fair offer excepting bids right now it's around 150...or 160...and that will include shipping they are in mint condition...so let me know so i can place your bid ...closing this weekend on everything...thanks Matt
NOTE!!!! The above message states that the price will include shipping, and that they are in "mint" condition...
07/12/02 07:07AM
$160 for what, exactly?
-GM
07/12/02 01:05PM
that's for the interior door panels and charcoal grey leather wit hno cracks tares or rips mint...let me know ,..thanks for the quick response
07/12/02 06:32PM
I'll make you an offer of $150...
-G
07/13/02 11:05AM
155.00 i will do it for ....and meet you half way from your 150...and my 160.00 that's fair considering what it's going to cost me to ship the things..need a shipping addres so e-mail me back and the leather i a mrefffering to is on the interior door panel it self...i know it's been a long week for me too...thanks
07/13/02 12:17PM
Do you have a PayPal account?
-G
07/13/02 01:31PM
yeah my pal pal acccount is MatLLock@aol.com...let me know
07/13/02 01:42PM
I'm taking your word this stuff is in perfect condition... You wouldn't happen to have any pictures, would you?
-G
NOTE!!!!! Red circles have been added by me to show areas in question
7/13/02 02:09PM
here you go money has to be sent to day because i already whent down in price and just got an offer for more money but i am a man of my word so i will expect to see the 155.00 plus the 3% pay pal ..sent to me today..thanks you and here is a pic i on;ly sell good stuff no
junk..thanks for the quick reponses
7/13/02 03:03PM
plus i need your shipping address for charges..thanks
07/13/02 03:50PM
These are flawless???? Looks like there are dings all over them. Especially the passenger side. And no rug at the bottom?
-G
07/13/02 04:20PM
the rugs are off do you need rugs ..switches there are no dings these are soft material they dont ding ....have the rugs if not interested please let me know have several others interested in them and don't want to waste anybody's time especialy mine...
07/13/02 06:29PM
They don't ding? Try getting those bumps out of that door panel. I'll give you $110 for both panels with the rugs... Best I can do. Sorry...
-G
07/13/02 09:30PM
sorry i sold them ...though you weren't interested ..and i took the bumps out with a hair dryer it's just foam...it was casued by something leaning up against it in the closet ...that interior is out of a 98 gt sl...maybe next time i will be able to help you out..take care..and thanks for responding
07/13/02 09:41P
Ah well... That'll teach me. When you get burned a few times buying goods out here... sometimes you get a little TOO paranoid. I really needed those panels... but... I'm sure another set will come along. Sorry for wasting your time, though.
-G
07/13/02 10:00PM
what are you looking for anyway.. because i saw you respond to a post i have forthe comp[lete leather interior.....is that what you are looking for>???? let me know.....havethe seats front and back with power driver side...may be i can scam a set of door panels from one of the other guys parting out there stuff...also i told this guy that he has until tonight to pay pal me the money or there up for grabs again...so may be you just might luck out after all i try to be fair but buisness is buisness...ya know ..thanks again
Matt
07/13/02 10:08PM
My tan interior is in great shape... What I really need is the speaker cover, door handle, switch surround, defroster vent and rug, in charcoal... I want my doorpanels tan with black accents. I've already replaced the leather insert with part of my favorite old black leather jacket (looks excellent) and I'm trying to buy Tighe Nostrand's old black leather seats. If I can't get them, I'll go Katzkin. I just don't like the full tan interior on the car... I think it's kind of bland. Most of my cars have had black leather guts.. If they're still up for grabs, I'll take them for $155.
Thanx...
-G
07/13/02 11:33PM
i have black leather seats in good shape if interested make me an offer and we can work it out...you are locaterd in mass...i live in new york maybe we can work out something so we don't have to shipp..ya know...just a thought???...let me know
07/14/02 08:06AM
if you do it for the 155.00 plus shipping then i will sell to you ..please add a shipping addressin the next e-mail so i know plus you live in mass right...so it shouldn't be that bad.....let me know asap...thanks
07/14/02 08:07AM
well my interior seat are still up for grabs ..so let me know
07/14/02 09:43AM
I thought you were going to handle shipping? Ah well. I'll take them. Let me know what the shipping's going to be and I'll PayPal you.
Thanx...
-G
How much do you want for the seats? And what shape are they in? Are they out of the same '98 SL? What happened to the car?
-G
07/14/02 10:04AM
no seats i have are out of a 93 sl rear in mint shape passanger in very good...front driverecellent exacept ware on driver side bolster small will show with pics,...thanks
BTW.... Shipping address is...
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Thanx...
-G
07/15/02 06:15PM
Okay... I'll PayPal you as soon as I see the price with shipping... let me know...
-G
07/15/02 08:16PM
gil will give you a shipping pricew today and have the stuff out if pay pal short ly after on tuesday morning ...just a heads up...thanks
Matt
07/16/02 05:43PM
I'd like to get the panels for the weekend if possible. Have you made any headway on the shipping charges?
Thanx...
-G
07/16/02 06:11PM
ok gill got a shipping rate and all sorry for the delay work has been hectic...ok 155.00 is for the door panels as we agreed...do you need carpet let me know in the return e-mail no problem can send...and its 25.00 for the shipping and it should be there in about a day 2 top..will send it out special to ge tit in time for the weeke endso that makes it a total of 180.00 for shippin and the door panels to your door before the weekend...thanks for the patients...pay pal me tonight the 180.00 at MatLLock@aol.com..so i can shipp them out tommorow .from work..thanks talk to you soon
07/16/02 06:57PM
Awesome... I'll send the PayPal payment right now. Thanx a bunch...
-G
07/16/02 09:23PM
You should have received PayPal payment... Could you verify that?
Thanx...
-G
07/17/02 07:18PM
yes i have it do you still need the gray carpet because i have to know in order to ge it back...if not that makes it a lot easyer...thanks
07/17/02 07:23AM
Yes... I need the carpet. If you want to send the panels on ahead... and the carpet later, that would be fine.
-G
07/17/02 10:31PM
Did the door panels ship?
Thanx...
-Gil
07/19/02 07:08AM
I haven't heard from you in a few days. Have the door panels shipped?
-G
07/19/02 07:14AM
yeah gill i drop them off at my local shipping place last night sorry for thedealay in lettting you know the heads up...please give me an e-mail later and i will try and provide a tracking number for you
07/22/02 05:46PM
Did you get a tracking number?
Thanx...
-G
07/23/02 06:09PM
If they shipped Thursday, you'd think they'd have made it here today. Do you have the tracking numbers? Also... Did they ship with or without the rug?
-G
07/23/02 06:52PM
sorry gill for the delay they actually will go out today the person i had shipped the stuff from our place toatlly screwed up there for i have made sure and taken everystep to make sure the rugs and any thing else you may need is in cluded ...sorrry once again for the dealy ..please feal freee to contact me tommorow at aqaround after 5:00 516-443-6275...thank you for the time and the patients you have shown....Matt
07/23/02 06:57PM
They haven't shipped....
Tell you what. Why don't you just refund my $180.00 PayPal account is gil@3kgt.com
Thanx...
-G
07/2302
I phoned him and we discussed the shipping problem that was laid totally at the feet of the "shipper." He assured me the door panels were on the way...
-G
07/24/02 09:08PM
Have they shipped? And do you have a tracking number?
Thanx...
-Gil
07/25/02 07:02AM
Matt:
I now have four other people who want to sell me door panels. If you haven't shipped them yet, just refund my money and we'll call it a day. Appreciate it.
Thanx...
-Gil
NOTE!!!! He has my money and I'm getting no response. I thought this reply to a thread on 3SI might push a button...
On 3SI Forums.....
07-25-2002 09:45 AM
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Re: Matllock@aol.com great seller
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Originally posted by nasa1957
I just purchased a headlight assembly for my 3000gt
from matt...and the trasaction went as smooth as silk
we only had to play a little email and phone tag.
nasa1957
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Really??? Is that so??? I can see by the 2 posts you've had
on 3SI that I should take you seriously. I have had NOTHING but
trouble with this vendor... Anyone on here EVER have any luck buying
anything from him??????
-G
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07/25/02 10:07AM
gill please give me a call today 516-443-6275..thanks
NOTE!!!! Spoke on phone... He assured me they'd shipped and I'd have a tracking number.
07/26
NEVER received a tracking number. Goods showed up in worse condition than the pictures led me to belieive....
07/28/02 11:23AM
Matt:
The dings I saw in the pictures are still present, though not as deep as they appeared. There's a scuff mark, discoloration on the top of the passenger side door panel. The plastic tabs on both door vents are broken as are the tabs on both window/door control surrounds. The driver's side door panel rug is trash... The leather insert on the passenger side door panel is damaged... This is mint condition???
-G
07/28/02 03:33PM
the door panels were seen by several other members as well as my self before leaving i included the rugs when the are part of the interior set but you said you wanted them ...any dents you see are just temp..it's foam.....foam..it will mush in but eventually come back vent tabs were never even touched there was no need to so i have no idea what you are talking about. i gave you an excellent price these are the 4th pair.... 4th pair that i have sold no complaints by anyone i sent you digital pictures and even when the pair you had origanialy wanted in supposed worse shape ..i went and had to make a deal with my freind to get another pair just for you because i feelt bad that you took to long and i had to sell them...so i found you another pair just for you.... and had other offers for more money and still sold it to you.....you have my nuber give me a call today...516-443-6275
07/28/02 04:16PM
Wait a minute... You're telling me the picture you sent me was of a different set of door panels?
-G
NOTE!!!! If what he says is true... If I can figure out within the structure of that sentence what he's TRYING to say, then both sets of door panels have exactly the same weird scar on the passenger side leather insert... I'd be tempted to say he might be prevaricating...
There is some wear on the top of the passenger door panel that looks like a scuff mark. It doesn't look that bad in the picture, but the scuff is all the way through the vinyl...
The leather insert in the passenger side panel looks exactly like it did in his picture. Damaged...
The dings aren't as pronounced as they appeared in the pictures from him, but they're still there, They're visible and make the door panels look pretty crappy.
There are plastic tabs broken off both side door vents and both window/door control surrounds. The main reason I purchased these door panels was to remove the vents, surrounds, speaker grilles, rugs and door handles for use on a tan door panel. The speaker grilles and handles were in good shape. Everything else was hacked.
The driver side door panel rug looks like it was chewed on by a doberman. THIS is mint condition? If he'd have said GOOD condition I might tend to agree, but not wholeheartedly. Flawless in no way describes the condition.
I took him at his word that the minor imperfections that were present in the pictures were corrected, by him... My bad, apparently.
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